Thread:ConTraZ VII/@comment-10543602-20140924173033/@comment-8583748-20140928162718

Vampjrehunter wrote: U want me don't call u a boy, or kid. Then show me u are a guy, Athener. U run, u don't fight for urself (i don't mean "fight" like this, but "fight" for ur idea), that is not a right way.

There are a lot of kinds of people, we must accept that. There are some kinds i really don't want to work with, but because i want the best for the job, then no matter. I think u still remember the shjt who i called "the-shjt-u-know-who-i'm-talking-about", yep i hate him a lot, even don't want to call his name, but if he is right about something, and it is good for wiki, then no problem. I leave my emotion to other side, if it is good for business.

If u believe in ur idea, u must protect it. U wanna retreat, no matter, but not forever. U still must come back to show others that u are right. Don't run like a kid, be a guy, a man as u want me to see u so.

I cannot change ur decision. U decide ur own.

And all of u, it is true, when Athener says there is a not-friendly atmosphere here. What wrong with u guys?

When i say "discuss", i want u guys can stay together and contribute ur ideas to solve problem. Is there any words in my comments told u guys "let fight", "let see who is right/wrong",...or something like that?

U guys are too bad in teamwork, it is true. While many fraggers, fans, players... come to this wiki, waiting info from us, we cannot make deal with each other.

Nobody perfect, even me, if u guys call me "Mr. Perfectionist", think again. I am not perfect, like all of u. everyones has advantages and disasvantages. But there is no problem at all as we still can woek together. Why? Because of teamwork. This wiki started from 2011, nearly 4 years now. And what did we do? We made about 1072 pages, a lot of useful info. I heard from many people, they really love this and thanks us a lot. How did u (don't say about me, as i joined this wiki not for long) do that? This is a whole thing, and really difficult? Many people think that. Let me answer for u, because u guys worked together. I don't know if there had been any fights like this before i joined, but no matter, as u guy dealt with them very good.

So, where is it? Where is the atmosphere which used to be? Where everyones helps each other, work together. Every new members come in, edit something, they get an auto message. U guys are human, or u guys become robots like that message?

U guys need relax a day, if u want, i suggest all of u should take a break, and think about what i said today, think about what u've done, think about how did u guys work together, think about how selfish, stubborn, arrogant... u were.

Of course, i have my own mistakes. I'm arrogant, tyrant (as Athener said so), impatient, too perfectionist (as Contraz said). If u want think it is bad, then i apologize. What i can say, because i just only want the bests for this wiki, no matter how. Someones will disagree, i know, and i have nothing to confess.

Think again about urself. Are we a team, or just a mess group? It's already done,  but I think sacrificial things must be made if we want to progress, if there is always 2 sides that fight each other, CSO wiki mess group will never disbanded, We're done with CS NZ case, (renaming action taken).

It's about Ringling vs Lingling We already have a treaty about naming fictional and real world weapon, and yet still broken

For those who are curious what is the treaty: this between me, Lemon and Contraz

-For fictional weapon, follow Nexon (Don't care if it is a stupid name like googoogaga)

-Real-life weapon, just follow real-world name (EX: Petrol Bomb and Wakizashi)

Yet I still saw Ringling vs Lingling and that's why, it's useless for a treaty, so instead of ameliorating the "war", I'll assuage it by retreating

Intense atmosphere is almost unavoidable if the 2 sides got antithetical arguments, and keep defending their own arguments. I already tried to solve this through a treaty, yet it's broken

So pragmatically it's useless for me to stay here, arguments over arguments will still happen.

My solution: Browse a lot of other wikis especially those with a lot of community, EX: PvZ wiki

Take a sample of how they solving something and improve this wiki in the future days